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Dr Manoj Vaish brings a wealth of experience of more than 30 years in Financial & Capital Markets. After graduating from the prestigious Shri Ram College of Commerce, he completed his MBA (Gold Medallist) and PhD from FMS, Delhi University.
Dr. Vaish has held several prominent positions including Executive Director & CEO of Bombay Stock Exchange, President & CEO of Dun & Bradstreet India, Managing Director & CEO of NSDL Database Management Ltd. and Managing Director & CEO of MCX. Prior to this he has been with leading MNC Banks, Deutsche & ANZ Grindlays, in Treasury & Investment Banking.
He has served on several committees and Boards including SEBI's committee on Corporate Governance, Primary & Secondary Market Advisory Committees of SEBI, Working Committee of World Federation of Exchanges & South Asian Federation of Exchanges and Boards of GHCL, SBI Securities, Mirae Mutual Fund and BOI Shareholding.
Dr. Vaish has served on 30+ Boards in various capacities including Executive Director, Independent Director and Nominee Director. He has conducted more than 200 training programmes in Finance, Capital Markets, Risk Management and Corporate Governance.
ET: Actions of the Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) have made corporate governance a buzzword. What are some of the major changes happening on the corporate governance front in India?
MV: SEBI has played a key role in building a Corporate Governance framework in India. One of key focus area has been on Independent Directors (ID) and the role they can play in ensuring good governance.
How do you ensure independence, if the Independent Director owes his position solely to controlling / majority shareholders? In a recent paper, SEBI has proposed that Independent Directors' appointment should have dual approval - "majority of all shareholders" as well as "majority of minority shareholders". This would ensure the required check and balance in appointment.
Another focus area has been the compensation of Independent Directors. Regulators seem to have taken a position that there is an inverse relationship between compensation and independence. I personally believe that independence is much more a personal trait and the ethical and moral beliefs and value system are more important than compensation. The debate is still on and SEBI has sought views on restricting cash compensation to IDs while allowing them ESOPs, which is completely opposite to their existing position. Paying enough to encourage capable persons to take up the risk and challenges of the ID position, without compromising his/her independence would continue to get much attention.
Historically and currently the Boards have been male dominated. Most Boards have been all males with a few having one or two women as members. Recent regulations have ensured that Boards have at least one women member. This I believe is much needed and we need greater gender balance than what is currently seen.
Recent introduction of "Qualifying Exam" for Independent Directors was another novel step by Ministry of Corporate Affairs (MCA). There has been some opposition, though I fully support this, in spite of the fact that the current training modules and examination system needs a huge up-gradation.
Quite a few changes have been brought in the role of Board committees. They have been given more power and more responsibilities. The expectations from the committees and non-executive Board members is too high considering they only meet about 4 times a year and have serious information dissymmetry vis-à-vis executive directors.
ET: In recent news, there has been a debate on separating the CEO and Chairman roles. What is your take on this?
MV: I strongly support this step. CEO reports to the Board of Directors. If the CEO is also the Chairman of the Board, there is an inherent conflict of interest. To ensure a check and balance in the decision making and governance structure, it is important that the Chairman is someone other than CEO.
It must be ensured that the Chairman does not get into day to day management, and leave that to the CEO. The Board as a whole must be responsible for guiding and supervising the CEO and not necessarily the Chairman in his individual capacity.
An all-powerful Chairman & CEO, with absolute concentration of power, may run the company as his own personal fiefdom and we have seen enough examples of that with disastrous consequences for the company and its stakeholders. "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely".
ET: Today, investors are stressing on the need & importance of implementing environmental, social and corporate governance (ESG) principles while operating businesses. How has India Inc. fared in this regard?
MV: ESG refers to the three central factors in measuring the sustainability and societal impact of a company. The question is, to what extent these factors determine the future financial performance of the company?
Investors are increasingly giving more importance to ESG in their investment decisions. The investment though is still mostly based on total return expectation, in which ESG plays a role, rather than solely on ESG. Mutual Funds and Asset Managers recently have been offering ESG themed products. These are all at the nascent stage and we should see much more developments in this space.
Several rating agencies have come forward in quantifying the ESG status. They will play an increasingly important role. Currently, they use their own sets of metrics with no industry wide set of common standards. I expect these to evolve over time where companies give real focus on these criteria.
ET: The role of Independent Directors has been intensely debated in recent years. You have not only played this role but as a former CEO of the Bombay Stock Exchange seen instances where things have gone amiss. In your opinion, how can Independent Director raise their effectiveness?
MV: Keeping oneself updated on the business of the company and the environment that affects it is the starting point. This learning is a continuous process. The learning should also cover regulations, basic finance and risk management.
Reading the agenda and coming fully prepared for the meetings is necessary. More often than not, one sees inadequate preparation by IDs for the meetings.
IDs must actively seek information and ask questions - including tough ones. Being a "nice guy" and avoiding any conflicting view and statement can reduce the effectiveness of the ID.
IDs meet only a few times a year. The most important tool in their hand to increase their effectiveness is the use of external auditors and external consultants. These must be appointed by committee or Board directly, with well-defined scope of work and compensation determined directly by the committee / Board. The report of the auditor / consultant must also be submitted to the committee / Board and not to the management.
ET: What is your advice to leaders to ensure a proper balanced governance structure of their companies?
MV:
- Create a Value system in the Organization that establishes, promotes and nurtures good governance practices. Reinforce by own behaviour. Reward merit.
- Have a well-balanced Board. While Knowledge, skill and experience in Administration, Finance, Audit/Tax and Law will always be required, the future world needs much more - specially in technology (digital world / AI), Risk Management (cyber security), Marketing (Social Media) and so on.
- Have a well laid down structure of policies and procedures to increase effectiveness of execution. There will always be an unstructured part of execution. Continuously giving it a structure without creating rigidity and bureaucracy is necessary.
- Have a strong review and monitoring system. Use Audit and other committees of the Board to enhance efficiency.
- Engagement with the key stakeholders - employees, investors, regulators, etc. would give clarity and help in decision making.
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